About, the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the, name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy, Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he im-, mediately departed out of my sight. >>On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17>(mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:>>>There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non >>>fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, >>>which is supposedly in some German museum.>>>>And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end of>>WWII. I can't speak for President Kimball, but he had probably run across enough evil for him to give the story the benefit of a doubt, and believe it sufficiently to use it for illustrative purposes. )>>>>An interesting invention, given that Judas died of what appears to be a>>combination of hanging and seppuku.>>As if a little thing like that would stop a curse from God? This list does not contain those people who are supposed to have attained immortality through the typical means of a religion, such as a Christian in Heaven. And now are you cursed from the earth, which has opened her mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand; Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. That wasn't surprising since I'd expect the fundamentalists to have embraced and carried on this belief about Cain--and interesting that they equated him with communism. My freind went on to say that this book was banned by the Catholic church as sacraligious and had always been considered fiction. He is cursed to walk the earth. Boccacio's Decameron. For just a moment, if we can Kimball quoted the story, he tacitly gave credibility to the idea that Cain was still alive. Former noble knights that for one reason or another have been cursed to walk the land forever as mere shadows of their erstwhile selves, trying to find redemption and perhaps their final rest. Of course, Sadler was mysteriously murdered while sitting in a cafe>in Mexico in 1988 (IIRC). In fact, the Apocryphal book of Jubilees says that Cain died when the house he'd built of stone fell on him. Furthermore, if to God all things are known before their time, then Judas could have acquired his vampire gene At The Very Moment Of Betrayal. Methuzelah was a long lived sage in Genesis, I>do believe. An ancient monarch, damned to walk the earth alone, lives now in the present day. But now Judas is set up as a being who must live the inverted law, by only drinking blood. Blue, Yellow, & Bleeding: - . Originally planned for 2003, the film took over two more years to be made than originally Extant manuscripts have shown that as early as the time of Tertullian (c. 200), some Christian proponents were likening the Jewish people to a new Cain, asserting that they would be fugitives and wanderers (upon) the earth. You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Joseph Fielding Smith then told Wesley it was Cain, and related the Patten story to him. The Armenian bishop also reported that Cartaphilus had since converted to Christianity and spent his wandering days proselytizing and leading a hermits life. Here is an interesting article that might support the consideration of a certain ancient Anglo-Saxon archetype (the brutish descendant(s) of Cain) persisting into the the psyche of modern Anglo-Saxon descendants: http://ealuscerwen.wordpress.com/kin-of-cain-annotated-bib/. Plus, it isn't entirely inconceivable that there is a Cain cult that uses his name-title and cleverly perpetuates his occult "legacy." Cursed is an American fantasy drama streaming television series that premiered on Netflix on July 17, 2020. I don't know what this book is called or if my friend> just made it up or not, but it seems like and interesting tale. Neither comlied, but the jew, > agreed to go with this man to Rome. Luk 10:19 Lo, I have given you the authority to tread upon serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall in any wise hurt Play Cursed Free To Play Play Game About This Game In a small unnamed rural town, a girl has been missing for over 24 hours. The birth, occupation, and offerings of Cain and Abel. In the entry for the year 1223, the chronicle describes the report of a group of pilgrims who meet a certain Jew in Armenia (quendam Iudaeum) who scolded Jesus on his way to be crucified and is therefore doomed to live until the Second Coming. Now you have been called to find her and solve the mysteries of the abandoned mines. I don't know whether this is an authentic version of>the>>>legend or if it's just something Weinberg made up. 1:20-27; Moses 5:16-41; 7:8, 22)--all these now have power to rise up and bless Abraham as their father. Guilt and/or poetic justice over what Judas had done, natch. I think it's also a good reason to always go back to the scriptures as the basis for our beliefs--and if a belief is not supported by scripture, it should be considered with caution, no matter how long it's been around or who else believed or taught it. Caleb Jackson cursed to walk the Earth forever as Shiver Man Shiver Man's origins aren't completely clear, but it seems that he may have become who he is now after being cursed by a priest. The Wandering Jew is a figure from medieval Christian folklore whose legend began to spread in Europe in the 13th century. Once in Rome they veiwed the treachery and vices which were present at the time including murders, orgies, little boys, etc. Or is "Cain" a name-title passed down through the ages (the Master Mahan school of thought)? --Bruce R. McConkie in Priesthood, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1981, pp. Nimue. Nah, its for badass Renfields that eat the flesh and drink the blood of Gods kid. First, this is what the scriptures say about the curse placed on Cain: Moses 5:36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand. Still think church is for nerds? Press J to jump to the feed. Apparently, Patten wasn't the only one to have seen such a creature and rebuke in the name of Christ. (Just as Xerxes real name was Khsajarsa and Darius'was Darajavus). Perhaps his being cursed to be a "vagabond" in the earth (Genesis 4: 12 and Moses 5:37) led to a (mis? I agree--I think that when Pres. If I remember corretly from when I read a book on the subject, the name Ahausuerus first appeared around the 14th century in german pamphlets talking about the wandering jew. If youre in the know, please comment! The exact nature of the wanderers indiscretion varies in different versions of the tale, as do aspects of his character; sometimes he is said to be a shoemaker or other tradesman, while sometimes he is the doorman at the estate of Pontius Pilate. Any gods that choose to cross sowards will die. I should know. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of> Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by> saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling> the man he should convert to judiasm. Thanks Eden, after reading your post I found info. Growing up I was taught how to be the good guy and treat a girl right but all that got me was walked on, lied to, used, manipulated and hurt I Know (Instrumental) - The only name I'd heard for the Roman>soldier was Longinus. Even with a mortal wound when he stole the power Athena wanted he survived. The origins of the legend are uncertain; perhaps one element is the story in Genesis of Cain, who is issued with a similar punishmentto wander over the earth, scavenging and never reaping, although without the related punishment of endlessness. RAIN 3. (when it's in Crinos, it's a shopping mall), >>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? > On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17 (mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:> >There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non > >fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, > >which is supposedly in some German museum. Once in Rome they veiwed the. "I did not believe the phrase 'bodies piled in heaps' until I saw the battlefield yesterday", -Captain Emory Upton after the Battle of Antietam, : I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? Thanks so much for finding this, CV75..I even read Beowolf (though it was years ago) and did not remember this!! Methuselah isn't the one who struck Jesus. Warmest personal regards, -= The Seeker =- -= (i/pi)^inf =-, *************************************************************************** Actually, you're right; I haven't the foggiest idea what I'm doing but ** I'm having an awfully fun time doing it. The Wandering Jew would make a great WoD character, though. Learn how your comment data is processed. Prevesti. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of >Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by >saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling >the man he should convert to judiasm. "http://www-ece.rice.edu/~rickj/ -- Kosh and Talia, Babylon 5, "Deathwalker". And if that's all the evidence there is, I'd say we definitely should not be repeating this bit of information as fact in Sunday School, seminary classes etc. He tried to tell this wandering jew of the wonders of Christianity and get him to convert bu the jew refused and responed by saying that Jesus was a jew and he knew what he was doing and telling the man he should convert to judiasm. scale . There suddenly appeared in [smith's] right hand a light which had the size and appearance of a dagger. A voice said "This is your priesthood." Smoot, at the time and had been to Paris, some sixteen, miles away, holding a meeting. They will long to die, but death will flee from them. -Revelation 9:6. When, pointing to his face of glossy jet, Cain said, "You see the curse is on me yet.". Helaman 6:26-30 and Moses 5:29-31, 49 shows how Cain and others received these things from Satan. I think it's sometimes the little inconsistencies like this that may bring some to question the truthfulness of the gospel in general. On Wednesday, May 29, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Marcelo Herrera wrote: http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~sdf742/wofs.htm, http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/nilsw/index.html, http://www.comp.it.bton.ac.uk/~jcr1/wolves.html. sigh. I think the reason it's not so easily discarded is that the Patten story was quoted and equated with Cain by President Kimball in his work Miracle of Forgiveness. Another take on the wandering jew can be found in Potocki's"Manuscript found in Saragossa", back in 1820-something. I don't recall seeing him anywhere, which is pretty consistantwith WW policy. Hebrew and early Christian legends of beings that were cursed by inverting Gods law exist; and of course there are Bible verses that certainly read like a warning against joining the Lost Boys: There are those whose teeth are swords, whose fangs are knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, the needy from among mankind. -Proverbs 30:14. Some of the tamer tales show up in a film called"Decameron Nights", and as I recall Pier Paolo Pasolini did another filmversion as well. I'm talking about the notion that Cain lived forever and it still walking the earth. mocked Jesus> carrying the cross to Golgotha. 8:13 for if ye live after the flesh, ye must die; but if by the Spirit ye put to death the deeds of the body, ye shall live.) The Crossword Solver finds answers to classic crosswords and cryptic crossword puzzles. Methuzelah was a long lived sage in Genesis, Ido believe. There was a series of pulp "Men's Adventure" books called"Casca:The Eternal Mercenary" about Casca's missadventures throughhistory. There areactually several such charicters added in later fiction because Jesuspromised that the second coming would occure before all that saw himlive had died. The extended family was not to take vengeance against Cain or they would suffer seven fold the same vengeance against their own immediate loved ones. Or would Christs blood have the effect of reversing their vampirism? Because the one thing we know about vampires, is that they must die and rise as the undead. Aurelius Prudentius Clemens (b. Thats based entirely on my belief that Judas couldnt get laid. Another passage in the Gospel of John speaks about a guard of the high priest who slaps Jesus (John 18:19-23). Well, the burial probably helped, too-- remember Potter's Field? )interpretation of evil, strange-looking, powerful men as Cain. >On Sat, 01 Jun 1996 02:38:36 -0600 in alt.games.whitewolf, Moiner(moi@io.com) wrote:>>In article , sha@netcom.com (Darrin A.>>Hyrup) wrote:>>>>On Wed, 29 May 1996 22:22:36 +0000 in alt.games.whitewolf, Marc17>>(mcsc@uoknor.edu) wrote:>>>>There is a book 'The Spear of Destiny' which is supposed to be a non >>>>fiction book on hte Nazi's efforts to reclaim the Spear of Destiny, >>>>which is supposedly in some German museum.>>>>>>And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end of>>>WWII.>>>That would be the US military werehouse codenamed: Apocalypse?>>(when it's in Crinos, it's a shopping mall)>>Got me. Eph 4:27 neither give place to the devil. Miscellaneous Myths", "The legend of the wandering Jew in Europe and in Romania", "Mahavatar Babaji: The unknown 'immortal yogi', https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_claimed_to_be_immortal_in_myth_and_legend&oldid=1128430221, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2021, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2015, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 20 December 2022, at 02:38. The mans faith is shattered. Thus the earth was made the minister of God's curse, not a partaker of it, as some have strangely imagined, as if by drinking up the blood of Abel it had become a participant of Cain's crime (Delitzsch). hrvatski. The curse was the result of Cain murdering his brother, Abel, and lying about the murder to God. Jul 30, 1999. And now are you cursed from the earth, which has opened her mouth to receive your brother's blood from your hand; Genesis 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of Think of it more as a whole variety of power tools than merely a lone buzzsaw. Immediately when the light appeared the person stopped and on being commanded to leave, he backed out the door. 2. No one can answer who it was or what was cursed in the garden. Why dost Thou loiter?, to which Jesus, with a stern countenance, is said to have replied: I shall stand and rest, but thou shalt go on till the last day.. ", >In article <4ojc95$e@news-f.iadfw.net>, r@airmail.net (Kestrel the>Fairly Decent Dragon) writes:>>>>I believe that man's name is Methusalah (sp? > I meant to say this in my last posting> > but forgot; who wrote "Spear of Destiny," when was it> > published, etc.I would like to find myself a copy> > and need this information. Their tillage of the ground was not to prosper, which ultimately, Bonar thinks, drove the Cainites to city-building and mechanical invention. He supposedly struck Jesus and was cursed by God to Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers, OT Law: Genesis 4:11 Now you are cursed because (Gen. Ge Gn). The Wandering Jew, often named Ahasueras>(or variations thereof) was cursed for mocking Jesus on the road to>Golgotha, or at least that's the version I read. Purgatori 1JAY. Exactly how far it extends and its exact mileage or kilometers in square units is unknown at You can read about itin a rather nutty book called "The Spear of Destiny" (sorry, don't knowauthor's name). but you get the point) so>>yes, he gets >>>mention in the booksjust not directly>. Prijevodi fraza CURSED TO WALK s engleskog na hrvatski i primjeri upotrebe rijei "CURSED TO WALK" u reenici s njihovim prijevodima: And now I'm cursed to walk the earth for all eternity. The first of murderers, now he fills his post. The original legend concerns a Jew who taunted Jesus on the way to the Crucifixion and was then cursed to walk the earth until the Second Coming. These can usually be found in your bookstores in the Men's Adventure section. A belief that the disciple whom Jesus loved would not die was popular enough in the early Christian world to be denounced in the Gospel of John: And Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple following whom Jesus loved, who had also leaned on His breast at the supper, and had said, Lord, which is he who betrayeth Thee? >Weinberg does interesting things with the paraphernalia of classic>grimoire occultism; I'd recommend the book to anyone who plans on playing>an Order of Hermes Mage.>>>Dean Shomshak. (The Wandering Jew is>also a central character in Robert Weinberg's novel, The Devil's Auction,>but in this case he turns out to be>Judas Iscariot. It was probably not long after his arrival in Tennessee, Whitaker Chambers wrote in Life Magazine an account of his, A group of teenaged boys were playing with a Ouija board. This is not a challenge of the veracity of, your statement, but iis this a urban myth, or is it, written down some where? All of a sudden. : in the spring of 1836, that David had one of the most re-, markable experiences of his life. As far as I know (and care) it is probably the same one the Arc issupposedly in. And in fact, is supposed to be in some US military werehouse since the end ofWWII. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); *We promise we will never SPAM you with unwanted emails. with him, and we read it many, many times. Borrowing the HM2 buzzsaw fuzz predominantly associated with Swedish death metal, these Belgians describe their style as chainsaw grind. Given the death/grind carving contained on Cursed To Walk This Earth, I suppose thats as good a term as any, although crediting the bands entire sound to the sawblade does a bit of disservice to the jackhammer drums and cement-churning bass. >Sorry, Methuselah's the fellow from before the flood. And if you cant handle that, you sure cant handle what Elisha did with the she-bears in the Book of Second Kings. When Cain realizes he will be killed by any who find him, the Lord tells him: Moses 5:40 And I the Lord said unto him: Whosoever slayeth thee, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. There was and you're invited to watch. bring kleenex!www.speedkingrecords.ca But heres one to contemplate over bong hits what if a vampire drank Jesus blood? 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